no kidding? what was that like with joe morello? i am self taught. i took one year of lessons and quit a year to the day because i was sick of learning rudiments and such (you know, stuff that can really help you!) but i have been self taught ever since playing in bands. no bands actually went anywhere outside of playing shows around MA. i'm still in a band, but we haven't practiced in 2 months because our bassist (and my riding buddy) was back packing through south america. and now that might be delayed even more if i get on the fire academy class going in july...