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1000 cc, Why?

I'm not a illegaly promoter but I'm hate hypocrisy!

guys is very important form me to fix this concept: I'm not an illegaly drive promoter but hypocrisy is not on my style so I talk sincerely whit people that have my same passion: in Italy the hiway speed limit is 130km/h but over the tracks,hiways are the only place to push your bike to the top speed: I'm not a lier: I saw many times the max speed of my bikes on hiways..but every times that I did it,always find a big mercedes/bmw/audi/porche/ferrari's driver that try to go faster than me....I also have some policemans friends and they ever tell me that when are in a boring moment,they switch on lights and go over the limits..is not correct scribe those things but is the true..so what I want to do? If a policeman do it I want to do it to? Absolutly not!! But pass a double yellow trafficlight is not the same as push our bike on a long large empty dry hiway.. Speed is an instinct and a long empty way is a temptation for speed's lovers.. If over the limit a radar take me I will pay my bill because I wrong.. But if trough a trafficlight at the stop moment,I pass killing someone,it will be better to died to because there are no punishments enough for someone so idiot!Independently from the bike or car size! 1000cc sport bike like the ours are more and more than a sport's car and I considered me on a privilege status since I have her..so brain on especially on cities roads where died 90% of italian's biker...but some safetly rpm''red zone''is possible if you are a mature biker,and on fz1 is an amazing moment that whe need ;-)
 
With that said. I don't think you can pick laws that you feel are ok to break and wag a finger at others for their infractions that ours do( not saying that you are). At the end of the ..........
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I think you can and furthermore, in my experience, most police officers, make judgement calls all the time on whether or not to enforce a particular law. Example: Speeding tickets are rarely issued if a driver is moving safely with the flow of traffic, even if traffic is moving 5-10 mph above the limit.

I surmise most traffic officers first determine if the driving of a particular operator is making life dangerous for others. If that's the case-the rule book comes out.

Laws were not designed to spoil our fun. Their design and purpose is to protect others rights and freedoms. With that principle in mind, it's sometimes easy to determine if a law protects a possible infringement on another or if it's just a nuisance, put in place by an over zealous lawmaker.


Why do I have a 1000 CC bike. Very simple. If i could have found a standard middleweight with the frame, suspension and brakes on par with the FZ1 AND at the price- I would have bought it. I purchased my '08 FZ1 new in '09 for $7300. Middleweights I'd consider owning if they didn't cost so much: Triumph Street TripleR $10K+, BMW F800R $10K+, Ducati Monster 796, $10K
 
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alaw broken is a law broken be it speeding or passing on a double yellow my liter bike is not what made me do it,I did it on my warrior as well.Who is to say that speeding is safer than passing on a double yellow? is there a book that states one is more "acceptable" than the other? I am guilty of both infractions however there are probably people on this site who think its ok to have a couple drinks and ride.I do not drink and ride,does that make me more right than the guy that does but doesnt break other laws?
 
On my 5 mile way to work, this is normally what I do. I fire the beast up in my driveway, I find the easiest way to properly warm it up is to hold it WFO and bounce if off the limiter for 5 mins. Then as I pull into traffic I do wheelies and stoppies while weaving in and out of every car in sight. After getting onto the highway and holding 200 mph for a few miles, I dart off my exit across 5 lanes of traffic 3 times the speed of the off ramps posted limit. As I come off the ramp and come to the light, I do a huge smoke show and then take off in the cloud of smoke so I basically dissapear. I then pull up to work after wheelieng while standing on the seat all the way down the side street, and then go inside to enjoy myself a nice Pepsi. None of this could be done without my 1000CC's of epicness. THAT is why I bought my FZ1.














































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you don't understand me

first: mine where just examples to show that is not necessary a 1000cc bike to brake a road code rule..
Second: in German some peaces of hiway have no speed limits and are exactly like the italian's hiways that I was talk about.. How is possible that the same action on same condition can be a violation on a country and not on another? Red light trafficlight crossing is violation all over the world so a violation is not like another..speed limits on big empty hiways in Italy are necessary for cultural reasons: whit no limits hiway's peaces the road will be like a race. German people are more drive's disciplinated. I hope you understand my words and go at the concept without tell that there are italian's drivers that never will push over 130km/h on a no limit hiway and german's that will go over limits 'cause is obvious.Rules are all over to live all together on respect of other..under rules is more difficult damage someone else..In this way,a double yellow crossing how can be the same that a little push on an empty hiway? The first is an absurd russian roulette the second the moust sanctionated violation in the world. At the end what I want to say is that a big size bike is not the reason of a bed drive conduct..is alway the biker's head to decide everything..and on a medium size bike,do the ''criminal''on public roads is always easier because you have more control..and to close,my experience in 22bike's driving years is that independently from bike size,stay always on limits is very difficult(I remember my ducati 748..to go at 50km/h you can't use 5 or 6 gear..only until the 4 she don't jump untill stop the engine..)so the moust important thing is stay on our personal limits..on a 50km/h road I'm going at 64? Ok for the radar is a violation and I will pay but the only thing that count for me is if a car or a person came from a side,I'll stop on time..crossing a red trafficlight never never never can make you in that safetly situation!Remember it! And feel your bike..use her performance sometimes is like training and consent you to drive her safetly..
 
After reading the thread again I realized by the time I read the last post I had forgotten what the first post was. I almost wish I had not started the thread. As for myself I'am not a hooligan, yes at times I can be a little fast for the street and my past may be a little colorful but those that do ride with me know I keep a ride as fun for everyone involved and safe as I can. I ride with people of variant riding abilities, thresholds, and styles and 9.5 out of 10 times everyone has a good time and never feel pressure to ride above their limit. Judgement is what dictates the safeness of your actions. Judgement also takes time to be developed and can be overrun by bravado, adrenaline and enthusiasm. Factually speeding is the highest cause of accidents and deaths and the most common range above is 10 mph, this statistic includes cars. There is no book to say which laws may be ok to overlook but in the end it's not speeding or crossing a DY that cause the accident it's the circumstance that causes the accident, the major player in circumstance is judgement. With poor judgement even following the rules could end in catastrophe.
Sorry this thread got out of control and IMO became a ugly monster, this was not my intension and probably my fault.


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alaw broken is a law broken be it speeding or passing on a double yellow my liter bike is not what made me do it,I did it on my warrior as well.Who is to say that speeding is safer than passing on a double yellow? is there a book that states one is more "acceptable" than the other? I am guilty of both infractions however there are probably people on this site who think its ok to have a couple drinks and ride.I do not drink and ride,does that make me more right than the guy that does but doesnt break other laws?
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We choose to disagree. Traffic laws are a practical construction of society. They are not the immutable laws of physics. There will be times when traffic laws, as written, do not serve their intended purpose. We should not be slaves to the letter of the law, only to abandon their prime purpose. Example: I'm sitting at a red light. The car coming up from behind is not slowing down. I see the intersection is clear. I pull through the intersection to avoid being rear ended.
The law that says, "stop at red and go at green" (meant for my and everyone's safety),has a positive intent to protect life. My passing through the light to protect myself actually served the intent of the law. Seem contradictory, it's really not, because it served the intent of the law and I guarantee, that's the way a judge would see it as well.
Drinking impairs judgement and one should never be buzzed while driving. Only bad can come from impaired judgement.
 
We all ride these bad boys for our own reasons. Its fast, it looks great,chicks dig it,whatever the reason. We're all probably guilty of breaking a law or two, I'll confess to my crimes. The only thing I'll pass on double yellow is a bicycle or a tractor, who wants to be a hood ornament?
 
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We all ride these bad boys for our own reasons. Its fast, it looks great,chicks dig it,whatever the reason. We're all probably guilty of breaking a law or two, I'll confess to my crimes. The only thing I'll pass on double yellow is a bicycle or a tractor, who wants to be a hood ornament?
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Chicks dig it? Really? Must be other factors that blunt the effect.
 
I could care less whether someone abides by the law or not. I reserve the right to think them a dumbass depending on circumstances in which they do it.

I still do not see where everyone thinks one side is preaching about obeying the law all the time in this thread. I never read that through the entire post (maybe I missed one?). A few people simply made it clear that they do not cross the double yellow line while admitting they do take liberties with the law elsewhere. Nor did anyone state that one is more or less dangerous than others.

I personally think it is a great thread and to me has not gotten out of hand. It only gets out of hand when you start attacking people personally. There is nothing wrong with just stating what you believe and everyone has done that. It has made me think a little about how I ride and that is good.

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There does not need to be a reason. If you want it, get it.
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You cannot put it more clearly and succinct than that! :)
 
I personally wish to form a mob and punish the purveyor of evil that started this thread!! JOTR is to blame for this he has somehow brainwashed us to turn against each other,subliminal messages,drugged water supplies I dont know how he did it but how could ya trust a guy that looks like a product of incestuous breeding [he is from jersey need I say more]:sinister:
 
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