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hi all i am in a dilema about the type of oil to put in my fz1 2007 model it is on 5000 miles now and i want to do a service ready for the summer but i dont know what grade of oil to use i have spoken to a dealer and they reconmend yamlube fully synthetic oil but i have read that semi is as good if not better
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OneSizeFitsAll said:
It really does not matter as long as you change it and the filter every 4k miles.
It's as simple as : Clean oil-good, dirty oil -bad
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:ditto:

I use Motul Semi synthetic and still change at 4000 km, filter and oil every time. The full sythetic is much pricier than the semi. Even good old Dino will work; As long as it is motorcycle specific oil.
 
For a while I always used Motul 5100 in my bikes and it was great. Out of curiosity, I ordered a case of Amsoil to test it and wasn't as happy. On a suggestion from a friend, I've started using Shell Rotella T synthetic and have been using that for the last 6 months or so.
 
I thought the manual says 6K miles? Also it says to change the filter every other oil change doesn't it? I think the best has to be Amsoil but way too expensive no way I'm doing that. I started buying the Walmart filter and I found a place that sells Yamalube for the same price Walmart sells the Mobil auto oil so I'll be using the Yamalube now, but for before that I bought the Mobil oil from the local Autozone and paid the ridiculous $10/quart.
 
romr said:
I thought the manual says 6K miles? Also it says to change the filter every other oil change doesn't it? I think the best has to be Amsoil but way too expensive no way I'm doing that. I started buying the Walmart filter and I found a place that sells Yamalube for the same price Walmart sells the Mobil auto oil so I'll be using the Yamalube now, but for before that I bought the Mobil oil from the local Autozone and paid the ridiculous $10/quart.
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It actually would depend more on the type/quality of oil you put in. The cheapest Dino oil is going to need changes more often than the expensive full synthethics like Mobil 1 7500 mile oil. With the Rotella, I change it when I winterize the bike, again in the following summer after 5k miles then again when I winterize unless I've already hit another 5k and changed it again.

If I have few miles on an oil change and winter is now here, I drain the good stuff, leaving the filter on, put that in a clean container and put it in the basement. I fill the bike with new cheap Dino oil to sit over the winter, then after running out the first tank of (Stabil'ized) fuel in the spring, drain the Dino and put back my synthetic from the saved jug.

All oil changes save the last mentioned one include a new oil filter. :D
 
I suppose that makes sense, if you use cheap stuff change it more often....the oil filter is cheap enough to do every oil change too so might as well :)


FZ1inNH said:
It actually would depend more on the type/quality of oil you put in. The cheapest Dino oil is going to need changes more often than the expensive full synthethics like Mobil 1 7500 mile oil. With the Rotella, I change it when I winterize the bike, again in the following summer after 5k miles then again when I winterize unless I've already hit another 5k and changed it again.

If I have few miles on an oil change and winter is now here, I drain the good stuff, leaving the filter on, put that in a clean container and put it in the basement. I fill the bike with new cheap Dino oil to sit over the winter, then after running out the first tank of (Stabil'ized) fuel in the spring, drain the Dino and put back my synthetic from the saved jug.

All oil changes save the last mentioned one include a new oil filter. :D
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romr said:
I suppose that makes sense, if you use cheap stuff change it more often....the oil filter is cheap enough to do every oil change too so might as well :)
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What filter are you using? There are some after market ones that are not recommended. ;)

I use the Purolator Pure One PL14612. I typically go clear the shelf at Walmart twice a year. I get them on sale for $3 - $4 each. :D Since these fit ALL FZ and R# bikes, having them on the shelf covered the FZ6's, the FZ6R and the FZ1 (now two FZ1s!!!)

For those that do not want to search, here is a list of filters that do fit:

Recommended filters.
All have superior
filtering.

About 2.5 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14612, about $6.
Mobil M1-108, about $12.
Made by Champion.
Bosch 3300, about $6.
Made by Champion.

About 3.25 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14610, about $6.
Mobil 1 M1-110, about $10.
Made by Champion.
Bosch 3323, about $6.
Made By Champion.
WalMart SuperTech ST7317,
about $2. Made by Champion.
Buy these filters Automobile Filters,
about 2.5 inches long.
AC Delco PF1237
Baldwin B1400
Firestone TF2876
Hastings LF113
NAPA Gold 1365
Purolator L14612
STP S-02876
WalMart SuperTech ST6607
WIX 51365
Automobile Filters,
about 3.25 inches long.
AC Delco PF-2057
Auto Pro 2356
Autopride CF240AP
Baldwin B1402
Carquest 85356
Carquest Red B4620
Casite CF240
Castrol 7317
Champion Labs Ph2867
Defense Filters Dl7317
Deutsch D-370
Federated Filters LF240F
Automobile Filters,
about 3.25 inches long.
Fram Double Guard DG7317
Fram PH7317
Fram Tough Guard TG7317
Fram Xtra Guard XG7317
Group 7 V4610
Group 7 V4620
Hastings LF240
Mighty M4612
Motorcraft Long Life FL-821
Napa FIL1356
Napa Gold 1356
Parts Plus PH2867
Pennzoil PZ-109
Penske 7317
Powerflo SL14610
Powerflo SL14620
Pro Gauge PGO-4620
Pro Tec 164
Promotive PH4610
Pronto PO3593A
Purolator L14610
Service Champ OF-4622
Shell SH48
Shell SH529
Stp S-02867.
Valvoline VO50
Warner PH2867
Wix 51356

This info is available at Motorcycle Oil Filter Cross Reference

I will link to thier oil filter testing as well.

I highly highly recomend the purolator pure one filter PL14610 for less than 6 dollars it is one of the finest available.
 
Overkill

Oldschool said:
:ditto:

I use Motul Semi synthetic and still change at 4000 km, filter and oil every time. The full sythetic is much pricier than the semi. Even good old Dino will work; As long as it is motorcycle specific oil.
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romr said:
I thought the manual says 6K miles? Also it says to change the filter every other oil change doesn't it? I think the best has to be Amsoil but way too expensive no way I'm doing that. I started buying the Walmart filter and I found a place that sells Yamalube for the same price Walmart sells the Mobil auto oil so I'll be using the Yamalube now, but for before that I bought the Mobil oil from the local Autozone and paid the ridiculous $10/quart.
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I was just telling you what I do, and I know it is overkill. I have always erred on the cautious side when it comes to my machines. The only proof (that it is worth it) that I have is 2- 25+ year machines in my stable that don't burn oil and run just fine (electrical problems for 1 aside). For the two to three oil changes a year that I have to do (on this mileage) it certainly won't break me. I am sure that you will be fine following the factory suggested schedule with whatever oil you see fit.
 
I use K&N filter P/N: KN-204.
So much easier with the 17mm nut fixed to the end of it.

Oh, I use Castrol ACT-EVO X-TRA 4T synthetic blend oil(10W30).
 
Ah so it's YOU that buys them all!


FZ1inNH said:
What filter are you using? There are some after market ones that are not recommended. ;)

I use the Purolator Pure One PL14612. I typically go clear the shelf at Walmart twice a year. I get them on sale for $3 - $4 each. :D Since these fit ALL FZ and R# bikes, having them on the shelf covered the FZ6's, the FZ6R and the FZ1 (now two FZ1s!!!)

For those that do not want to search, here is a list of filters that do fit:

Recommended filters.
All have superior
filtering.

About 2.5 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14612, about $6.
Mobil M1-108, about $12.
Made by Champion.
Bosch 3300, about $6.
Made by Champion.

About 3.25 inches long.
Purolator Pure One PL14610, about $6.
Mobil 1 M1-110, about $10.
Made by Champion.
Bosch 3323, about $6.
Made By Champion.
WalMart SuperTech ST7317,
about $2. Made by Champion.
Buy these filters Automobile Filters,
about 2.5 inches long.
AC Delco PF1237
Baldwin B1400
Firestone TF2876
Hastings LF113
NAPA Gold 1365
Purolator L14612
STP S-02876
WalMart SuperTech ST6607
WIX 51365
Automobile Filters,
about 3.25 inches long.
AC Delco PF-2057
Auto Pro 2356
Autopride CF240AP
Baldwin B1402
Carquest 85356
Carquest Red B4620
Casite CF240
Castrol 7317
Champion Labs Ph2867
Defense Filters Dl7317
Deutsch D-370
Federated Filters LF240F
Automobile Filters,
about 3.25 inches long.
Fram Double Guard DG7317
Fram PH7317
Fram Tough Guard TG7317
Fram Xtra Guard XG7317
Group 7 V4610
Group 7 V4620
Hastings LF240
Mighty M4612
Motorcraft Long Life FL-821
Napa FIL1356
Napa Gold 1356
Parts Plus PH2867
Pennzoil PZ-109
Penske 7317
Powerflo SL14610
Powerflo SL14620
Pro Gauge PGO-4620
Pro Tec 164
Promotive PH4610
Pronto PO3593A
Purolator L14610
Service Champ OF-4622
Shell SH48
Shell SH529
Stp S-02867.
Valvoline VO50
Warner PH2867
Wix 51356

This info is available at Motorcycle Oil Filter Cross Reference

I will link to thier oil filter testing as well.

I highly highly recomend the purolator pure one filter PL14610 for less than 6 dollars it is one of the finest available.
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Hey if you have 2 25+ year machines I'm not so sure it's overkill, maybe you got something there Lee...


Oldschool said:
I was just telling you what I do, and I know it is overkill. I have always erred on the cautious side when it comes to my machines. The only proof (that it is worth it) that I have is 2- 25+ year machines in my stable that don't burn oil and run just fine (electrical problems for 1 aside). For the two to three oil changes a year that I have to do (on this mileage) it certainly won't break me. I am sure that you will be fine following the factory suggested schedule with whatever oil you see fit.
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