Fz1fighter
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After the first 90min my back was killing me and my ass was numb. How the Hell do you guys do hours and hours on a fz1?? I need a new seat and adjustable rearsets I reckon.
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fz1 sucks for touring....
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Dicko
Wizard
You need to set the bike up to suit you. chenge the setting on the suspension suspension to suit you, preferably upgrade the rear shock, change the seat to one that suits you (I have no issue with the stock seat) and possibly change the bars & grips to suit you (I didn't like the stock bars, risers or grips) as well as the already mentioned rearsets if they don't suit you.
I have no issues going on +3 hour rides from Radelaide to Victa along the coast (range road from Delamere is nice) then back to Mt Compass, across to Strath, back roads to Flaxley & home down the freeway.
I have no issues going on +3 hour rides from Radelaide to Victa along the coast (range road from Delamere is nice) then back to Mt Compass, across to Strath, back roads to Flaxley & home down the freeway.
super googan
Wizard
New seat ( many like the " dirt road seat " )
Higher bars or a cheap set of spacers from ebay
Someone offered highway pegs, mounted forward to stretch your legs on the highway. Not sure if they are still available ( try a search )
The right windscreen for you, depends on your height and personal preference. EDIT I just noticed your on the naked FZ1, so I guess forget the windscreen LOL
Try the search feature and you should find plenty of information
Dustin
Moderator
Bikes get more comfortable with seat time. You're just too soft. Let the bike break you in
2wheelMax
Wizard
The stock seat is the worst I have ever sat on including stadium bleachers. I think Yamaha used that spec to keep a maximum seat height and minimum cost.
ElTigre1
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I didn't see whether you ride a Gen 1 or a Gen 2. I'm on the far side of 70 with arthritis and two back surgeries, but I can tour on my Gen 1 quite well. While the stock seat isn't a lounge chair, it is a far better seat than many so-called sport tourers. My long-time riding buddy has a BMW R1200ST. His stock seat is nowhere near as comfortable as my bike. I'd still like to get Eddie to redo it, but I'll make do till then.
Ssky0078
Wizard
I can easily do 300 miles or roughly 4-5 hours, and a long day for me is 400-500 miles or about 8-9 hours where I will actually get fairly sore. I'm on a 2009 with the naked headlight setup so no wind protection.
1. Be physically fit (ish). I go to yoga and ride my bicycle around town to get groceries and go out to eat. If I'm not staying up on my exercise, then I get sore more easily on the bike.
2. I commute 400+ miles a week on the bike. So I'm used to it.
3. Set up the bike with what works for you. I'm basically all stock for the ergos (bars/risers, rear set and seat)
4. I take a natural anti-inflammatory before long rides. Keeping systemic inflammation in check helps with the soreness.
5. Plan your rides well. The tanks size dictates taking a break about every hour and a half up to 2 hours. Get off the bike and stretch or walk about. When riding I will stand after about every 30-40 miles for about 1 mile of time to stretch and get blood flowing again. Be careful at speed and watch out for the po-po.
1. Be physically fit (ish). I go to yoga and ride my bicycle around town to get groceries and go out to eat. If I'm not staying up on my exercise, then I get sore more easily on the bike.
2. I commute 400+ miles a week on the bike. So I'm used to it.
3. Set up the bike with what works for you. I'm basically all stock for the ergos (bars/risers, rear set and seat)
4. I take a natural anti-inflammatory before long rides. Keeping systemic inflammation in check helps with the soreness.
5. Plan your rides well. The tanks size dictates taking a break about every hour and a half up to 2 hours. Get off the bike and stretch or walk about. When riding I will stand after about every 30-40 miles for about 1 mile of time to stretch and get blood flowing again. Be careful at speed and watch out for the po-po.
ballmead
Wizard
I have a Dirt road seat which is quite good but any local seat upholsterer will be able to improve on the stock plank easily.
Sore back? Maybe you need to raise the bars a little?
I'm running Rizoma conical bars with 60mm risers and it's a tad higher than stock and I don't have any back issues.
Like Dustin says, sometimes you just have to ride more for your body to get used to it.
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Fz1fighter
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Bikes get more comfortable with seat time. You're just too soft. Let the bike break you in
Cheeky bugger!!! Lol.
It was my first serious road trip so I guess more seat time is definitely in order
Mattsplat
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Sit in one position for a few hours on any seat and your gonna get sore.
OldBiker
Wizard
Coming off of sportbikes and superbikes I found the stock Gen2 to be very comfy except for the windscreen, that was replaced by a GIVI touring screen. I'm slowing down some so the FZ1 seemed like the best bike compromise for playing, commuting and touring.
The fuel mileage works out perfectly with my bladder, one needs to be filled and the other emptied at about the same frequency. (That gets my GoldStar buddy ticked because his range is quite a bit longer.)
My biggest problem was bilateral carpal tunnel syndrome which caused my hands to burn, cramp and go numb. Surgery has corrected this so now I should be able to put in 8 hour days.
The fuel mileage works out perfectly with my bladder, one needs to be filled and the other emptied at about the same frequency. (That gets my GoldStar buddy ticked because his range is quite a bit longer.)
My biggest problem was bilateral carpal tunnel syndrome which caused my hands to burn, cramp and go numb. Surgery has corrected this so now I should be able to put in 8 hour days.
Hellgate
Wizard
I never liked the stock FZ1 saddle. It just s way to soft to support well.
I didn't like the stock egos either way to upright. Once I lowered the bars and installed rearsets my body was eevenly balanced on the bike vs. all of my weight on my butt.
Once I did that I could do an 8 hour day.
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I didn't like the stock egos either way to upright. Once I lowered the bars and installed rearsets my body was eevenly balanced on the bike vs. all of my weight on my butt.
Once I did that I could do an 8 hour day.
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Erci
Wizard
I'm with Dustin.. seat time is the #1 thing that'll make touring more comfortable.
Having said that, not every bike will suit every rider equally well.
FZ1 can definitely benefit from few touring friendly mods.
I have the following: highway pegs, touring screen, dual density grips, heavier bar ends, throttle lock, FZ6 peg inserts.
My seat and rearsets are stock. With the above setup, I've done 9+ hour days without too much discomfort.
Having said that, not every bike will suit every rider equally well.
FZ1 can definitely benefit from few touring friendly mods.
I have the following: highway pegs, touring screen, dual density grips, heavier bar ends, throttle lock, FZ6 peg inserts.
My seat and rearsets are stock. With the above setup, I've done 9+ hour days without too much discomfort.
Clyde
Wizard
I did 3000 miles in six days on a fully stock setup and my rear was a little sore. I attribute that mostly to the fact that two days was in the rain, and my rain pants weren't quite up to the challenge. I've done 600+ mile days without any problems or soreness. I have a couple of long trips planned for 2014, and I think I might try a beadrider to see if that helps.
One of the reasons I bought the FZ1 was the upright seating position that allows me to stand up on the pegs to stretch my legs and get a little air-flow through the ol' nether regions. The bonus of this position is that I can shift around a little on the seat to avoid pressure points (something I couldn't really do on my old cruiser).
In the 36K miles I've put on my Yamaha, I've found some fairly creative seating positions for those long stretches of highway. Calves on sliders, toes on rear pegs, and a variety of others in between.
One of the reasons I bought the FZ1 was the upright seating position that allows me to stand up on the pegs to stretch my legs and get a little air-flow through the ol' nether regions. The bonus of this position is that I can shift around a little on the seat to avoid pressure points (something I couldn't really do on my old cruiser).
In the 36K miles I've put on my Yamaha, I've found some fairly creative seating positions for those long stretches of highway. Calves on sliders, toes on rear pegs, and a variety of others in between.
Oldschool
Moderator
Depends on the Rider
Personally, I found the FZ-1 a great touring bike, with just the addition of the "comfort seat" from Yamaha.
Oh yeah; and a Ohlins rear shock, Zero gravity windscreen, home made rear seat-deck, belly pan (O.E.M.) Pazzo shorty levers, Mivv exhaust, Givi V-35 side cases, and a few other minor mods.
I put a lot of miles on that one big trip. From Calgary to Victoria, to Port Hardy, to Winnipeg and back to Calgary. Some days were over 900 miles.
It looks like you have the "N" version, so the lack of fairing would make a big difference at highway speeds as to how much (seat pressure vs. wrist pressure) you would experience. The fairing makes all the difference at highway speeds.
Personally, I found the FZ-1 a great touring bike, with just the addition of the "comfort seat" from Yamaha.
Oh yeah; and a Ohlins rear shock, Zero gravity windscreen, home made rear seat-deck, belly pan (O.E.M.) Pazzo shorty levers, Mivv exhaust, Givi V-35 side cases, and a few other minor mods.
I put a lot of miles on that one big trip. From Calgary to Victoria, to Port Hardy, to Winnipeg and back to Calgary. Some days were over 900 miles.
It looks like you have the "N" version, so the lack of fairing would make a big difference at highway speeds as to how much (seat pressure vs. wrist pressure) you would experience. The fairing makes all the difference at highway speeds.
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Oldschool
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Another thought
Some guys add grip pads to the tank. They can help take the strain off wrists and back by allowing you to support yourself by gripping the tank with your knees. I have ridden bikes with these and they really do help, as they give you the option of how to support yourself on the bike and let you give one area a rest occasionally. They also add control to your riding.
Link: Home page
Some guys add grip pads to the tank. They can help take the strain off wrists and back by allowing you to support yourself by gripping the tank with your knees. I have ridden bikes with these and they really do help, as they give you the option of how to support yourself on the bike and let you give one area a rest occasionally. They also add control to your riding.
Link: Home page
Erci
Wizard
On the street, I find these mostly help when you brake hard (grip the tank, to prevent putting all the weight on the bars and / or sliding forward). Even a tank bra is enough to make a difference.
jared p
Wizard
to each his own, is how i explain this. i ride 16 hour days back to back comfortably on my 09 with no complaints.
Dustin
Moderator
Definitely push through the initial discomfort before you make any comfort purchases. Take short breaks every hour and move around while riding. Wiggle your butt, lift your legs, stand up on the pegs, etc
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FZ1inTX
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I don't care how much time you put on the stock seat, it will NEVER be comfortable. Pick a reputable place and have the seats re-made, be it Dirt Road Eddie, Sargent, Corbin, Top Saddlery (my personal choice for 4 bikes now!).....
Upgrade the suspension, especially the rear, so you can adjust for load and ride conditions and learn HOW to adjust it to suit the ride.
Get a cramp buster or throttlemeister so you are not holding on so tightly.
Learn to relax on the bike. Get a set of Satan's touring pegs and move your feet around often. Gel grips can be a help.
At each fuel stop, walk a bit and stretch out, not the "getting out of bed stretch" but REAL stretching.
And the most important, develop your core muscles. That support at the core is key to longevity on the bike. It allows you to not grip so tightly, relax your elbows and flex your legs easily while riding.
If all else fails, get an FJR or Connie and enjoy a touring bike.
Upgrade the suspension, especially the rear, so you can adjust for load and ride conditions and learn HOW to adjust it to suit the ride.
Get a cramp buster or throttlemeister so you are not holding on so tightly.
Learn to relax on the bike. Get a set of Satan's touring pegs and move your feet around often. Gel grips can be a help.
At each fuel stop, walk a bit and stretch out, not the "getting out of bed stretch" but REAL stretching.
And the most important, develop your core muscles. That support at the core is key to longevity on the bike. It allows you to not grip so tightly, relax your elbows and flex your legs easily while riding.
If all else fails, get an FJR or Connie and enjoy a touring bike.